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I told myself at that time that I would return with my wife and stay there. Not sure if they were good or bad, but wages were steady. Low key and unplugged, a chance to step away from the hustle and bustle of daily life.
ALl that changed once Caneel laid everyone opff (and Frenchmans Reef strated doing it too), within a few short years the Unemployment Fund was in the red and had to borrow heavily fromt he Feds – and has never been repaid so VI Employers are now paying an anuulal federal unemployment penalty of $189 per employee rather than the usual $42 per employee. Caneel Bay Resort today announced that a new restaurant and beach bar, ZoZo’s at Caneel Bay®, will open in the space previously occupied by the Beach Bar and Grill on Caneel Beach. I won’t ever give them a dime and will make sure my giant riff raff family enjoys all the beaches at Caneel.
He bought up land and donated it and pushed for the creation of the park.
Why wouldn’t the local Park Service get the 1.5 percent to benefit local services? Living in a tourist city myself, it is important to have diversity with regard to lodging. Hiking trails led into the small town nearby, we enjoyed seeing the cactus and tropical plants. Roosevelt never intended wealthy snobs and pushy elitist resort managers to exclude anyone from the grounds.Oh shut up with the “non-rich” crap. Your arguments were and are always well thought out and backed by facts. Five star resort in one of the most beautiful settings, right in the middle of Virgin Islands National Park. We need the resort to bring in DOLLARS!So many great points of view. I always thought Caneel was like the other side of heaven…..The damage to Caneel has not prevented the company from housing the BBC guys at a very high rate per night – the waterfront buildings got hit bad, but not the entire resort.I think the RUE should be for 20 years, with the rate being 2.5%, with 1% of that being paid by the National Park to the VI Government in lieu of property taxes.Caneel Bay has never ever, not since day 1 in the 1950’s paid a single penny to the VI Government – no property tax, no gross receipts tax (currently 5%), no income tax, no excise tax, nothing at all. I thought the public was allowed to access all of the Caneel beaches- though by water only as the public was not permitted to cross the property itself or use the resort’s beach chairs which is the rule we always went by. Our little family of 4 including 2 teenage daughters must have looked pretty threatening because security was all over us when, after our public beach visit and gift shop purchase, we decided to explore the resort grounds. !What a joy to read a post from one of our most long-time guests. We like St John, but we come to the island for Caneel……………I hope to go again someday.While everyone wants to bash the corporate fat cats, do you ever stop and think off the hundreds of employees of islanders who work there and depend on that resort for a living. Another fat cat hiring lobbyists. I mean, it’s not like St. John has a scarcity of nice beaches to explore, but why let the Caneel beaches go un-enjoyed during this time? I miss Zozos being at Gallows to this day. It’s our favorite resort anywhere and what’s going on is bad news for everyone.. AS I learned a long time ago, in any successful negotiation – you must create a WIN / WIN situationExcellent, informed, sober and accurate statement of the facts. Otherwise the business is sure to fail. The operators of Caneel have been making a killing, paying next to no taxes to the VI, and paying no rent to the Nat’l Park. Maybe U-tube it. Click image below to see full size map. And that’s very unfortunate.We stayed on St John for 3 weeks with friends over Christmas 2016 and visited every beach, hiked every trail, and loved every minute…except for our visit to Caneel Bay Resort.
As soon as more information is know, a time-line towards a re-opening date will be made available.Hire a Trip Designer. It also would direct the revenues to the General Treasury, not the Park Service, another aspect of her legislation that is at odds with the 2010 law, which directed any lease revenues to go back to the park for ‘visitor services and resource protection'”.It’s all starting to make sense now, isn’t it? Five stars across the board. The disappointing progress has us thinking we may have to find a new destination…….I’m sure nothing will compare.I hope the resort has to pay something, but not much for four reasons. The Nstional Parks service should be up in arms.Sometime after the storms we received a letter of ‘force majuere’ from Caneel Bay. We love Caneel Bay and being able to walk right out on the beach. Does Caneel Bay Resort offer any business services?Yes, it conveniently offers a business center, meeting rooms, and a banquet room. It was all as I remembered! There truly isn’t another place I’ve been to, like it.
Let the security dog’s, roam at night. The leaseholder of Caneel Bay Resort, the iconic St. John hotel that was destroyed by Hurricane Irma, has sent an offer to the Department of Interior to terminate its agreement to manage the hotel. Five stars across the board. Achieving this goal requires many components to come together and regrettably at this stage, it is not possible to advise of a re-opening date. If legal, it’s certsinly not ethical, and wouldn’t their insurance cover that, if not, why not? Caneel Bay is … But that’s just my two cents. It would, I think be a great disservice to “bulldoze” the resort so locals could have more beaches since St John is rich with so many with such variety of personalities. Theses folks were then instructed to collect unemployment insurance to stay alive. Maybe he can cut loose one of his billions to restore the place. I do know for a fact he held Caneel Bay near and dear to his heart until his death. This is in addition to having to now pay a 1.5% to 22% VI unemployment tax on each employee, another $470 or so. But why not let the free market system sort it out? Unfortunately the people who lease the property known as Caneel Bay have chosen not to repair it after the 2 hurricanes in September 2017. The post that details the lack of any taxable activity at Caneel is incredible.Wow, great commentary. It was all as I remembered!
I told myself at that time that I would return with my wife and stay there. Not sure if they were good or bad, but wages were steady. Low key and unplugged, a chance to step away from the hustle and bustle of daily life.
ALl that changed once Caneel laid everyone opff (and Frenchmans Reef strated doing it too), within a few short years the Unemployment Fund was in the red and had to borrow heavily fromt he Feds – and has never been repaid so VI Employers are now paying an anuulal federal unemployment penalty of $189 per employee rather than the usual $42 per employee. Caneel Bay Resort today announced that a new restaurant and beach bar, ZoZo’s at Caneel Bay®, will open in the space previously occupied by the Beach Bar and Grill on Caneel Beach. I won’t ever give them a dime and will make sure my giant riff raff family enjoys all the beaches at Caneel.
He bought up land and donated it and pushed for the creation of the park.
Why wouldn’t the local Park Service get the 1.5 percent to benefit local services? Living in a tourist city myself, it is important to have diversity with regard to lodging. Hiking trails led into the small town nearby, we enjoyed seeing the cactus and tropical plants. Roosevelt never intended wealthy snobs and pushy elitist resort managers to exclude anyone from the grounds.Oh shut up with the “non-rich” crap. Your arguments were and are always well thought out and backed by facts. Five star resort in one of the most beautiful settings, right in the middle of Virgin Islands National Park. We need the resort to bring in DOLLARS!So many great points of view. I always thought Caneel was like the other side of heaven…..The damage to Caneel has not prevented the company from housing the BBC guys at a very high rate per night – the waterfront buildings got hit bad, but not the entire resort.I think the RUE should be for 20 years, with the rate being 2.5%, with 1% of that being paid by the National Park to the VI Government in lieu of property taxes.Caneel Bay has never ever, not since day 1 in the 1950’s paid a single penny to the VI Government – no property tax, no gross receipts tax (currently 5%), no income tax, no excise tax, nothing at all. I thought the public was allowed to access all of the Caneel beaches- though by water only as the public was not permitted to cross the property itself or use the resort’s beach chairs which is the rule we always went by. Our little family of 4 including 2 teenage daughters must have looked pretty threatening because security was all over us when, after our public beach visit and gift shop purchase, we decided to explore the resort grounds. !What a joy to read a post from one of our most long-time guests. We like St John, but we come to the island for Caneel……………I hope to go again someday.While everyone wants to bash the corporate fat cats, do you ever stop and think off the hundreds of employees of islanders who work there and depend on that resort for a living. Another fat cat hiring lobbyists. I mean, it’s not like St. John has a scarcity of nice beaches to explore, but why let the Caneel beaches go un-enjoyed during this time? I miss Zozos being at Gallows to this day. It’s our favorite resort anywhere and what’s going on is bad news for everyone.. AS I learned a long time ago, in any successful negotiation – you must create a WIN / WIN situationExcellent, informed, sober and accurate statement of the facts. Otherwise the business is sure to fail. The operators of Caneel have been making a killing, paying next to no taxes to the VI, and paying no rent to the Nat’l Park. Maybe U-tube it. Click image below to see full size map. And that’s very unfortunate.We stayed on St John for 3 weeks with friends over Christmas 2016 and visited every beach, hiked every trail, and loved every minute…except for our visit to Caneel Bay Resort.
As soon as more information is know, a time-line towards a re-opening date will be made available.Hire a Trip Designer. It also would direct the revenues to the General Treasury, not the Park Service, another aspect of her legislation that is at odds with the 2010 law, which directed any lease revenues to go back to the park for ‘visitor services and resource protection'”.It’s all starting to make sense now, isn’t it? Five stars across the board. The disappointing progress has us thinking we may have to find a new destination…….I’m sure nothing will compare.I hope the resort has to pay something, but not much for four reasons. The Nstional Parks service should be up in arms.Sometime after the storms we received a letter of ‘force majuere’ from Caneel Bay. We love Caneel Bay and being able to walk right out on the beach. Does Caneel Bay Resort offer any business services?Yes, it conveniently offers a business center, meeting rooms, and a banquet room. It was all as I remembered! There truly isn’t another place I’ve been to, like it.
Let the security dog’s, roam at night. The leaseholder of Caneel Bay Resort, the iconic St. John hotel that was destroyed by Hurricane Irma, has sent an offer to the Department of Interior to terminate its agreement to manage the hotel. Five stars across the board. Achieving this goal requires many components to come together and regrettably at this stage, it is not possible to advise of a re-opening date. If legal, it’s certsinly not ethical, and wouldn’t their insurance cover that, if not, why not? Caneel Bay is … But that’s just my two cents. It would, I think be a great disservice to “bulldoze” the resort so locals could have more beaches since St John is rich with so many with such variety of personalities. Theses folks were then instructed to collect unemployment insurance to stay alive. Maybe he can cut loose one of his billions to restore the place. I do know for a fact he held Caneel Bay near and dear to his heart until his death. This is in addition to having to now pay a 1.5% to 22% VI unemployment tax on each employee, another $470 or so. But why not let the free market system sort it out? Unfortunately the people who lease the property known as Caneel Bay have chosen not to repair it after the 2 hurricanes in September 2017. The post that details the lack of any taxable activity at Caneel is incredible.Wow, great commentary. It was all as I remembered!